I play mostly only blackjack, roulette, and keno. I used to tip the dealer a buck or two whenever I won with a $7 bet or more. Unfortunately I often left the table a non-winner and by the end of my trip I figured I spent a whole lot of money on tips for losing. Now what I do is tip a good solid 10-15% of what I won if I leave a table a winner, but only when I decide to leave that particular table. The same in roulette. I usually only buy in for $20.00 and usually play for an hour or two on that at roulette. When I%26#39;d hit I used to tip a buck or two. This really adds up. Recently I was winning alot on roulette (about $200.00 ahead with only a $20.00 buy in after about an hour and a half. It was time to go and I was so thrilled I was going to give the roulette person a $25.00 tip. (Keep in mind I%26#39;m not a high roller, and that would be 5% of my total cash I brought to play). However...That roulette person became aggitated because I wasn%26#39;t tipping during the actual play and she was vocal about it. So.. When I left she got nothing. My question for you regulars is am I out of line for this train of thought on tipping, and was I out of line at the roulette table or was she? Keep in mind I just go occasionally for fun and $500.00 is allocated for gambling and geared to last three days, so obviously I don%26#39;t often make big bets, and three days of tipping after a few wins can add up to over $100.00 spent on tips alone. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Speaking of tipping
Hello, I am not only a regular player, but also a casino employee (bartender). Not only was that dealer%26#39;s attitude unprofessional and petulant, it was tantamount to soliciting tips, which is ILLEGAL. If the pit boss or any manager on duty witnessed this whiny display, she should have been fired or written up on the spot.I doubt she still works there or anywhere else involving the public (in jobs involving gratuities, the sqeakiest wheel does NOT get the grease). I always try to convey to new (and sometimes disenheartened -mostly young) co-workers that if you treat everyone with respect and like they%26#39;ve ALREADY tipped you handsomely, you will eventually be rewarded. Even a simple thank you from someone who says he has just lost heavily is greatly appreciated.
As far as my tipping goes when playing, let me quote a nice BJ dealer in my town of Elko at the Stockmen%26#39;s Casino: ';Lee, don%26#39;t tip yourself out of the game.'; You see, I was also tipping heavily at the outset because I wanted to be sure he had a pretty good shift. Even when no one or maybe just 1 or 2 players were tipping, he was smart enough and experienced enough to know that if you start fairly frugal, you can last play awhile and win some and THEN either play a dollar or two for him, or tip him outright. Dealers do NOT want to win. They want you to win, so you can make a little, and then they can make a little, and everyone%26#39;s happier.
When you run into those rude employees, don%26#39;t be afraid to bring it to mgmt%26#39;s attention - they make it difficult for those of us who really love what we do. Otherwise, perhaps if you win some, you can tip some. Professionals appreciate anything fair, and sometimes that may be just a smile and a thank you.
Being rude to you was her loss.
Hope I helped some,
Lee from Elko
Speaking of tipping
Mac,
First of all the other poster was wrong, it is not ILLEGAL for a person in a tipped position to complain about not getting tips. It is however unprofessional. Now, if you base tipping a dealer on whether or not you win after playing 2 hours on a $20 buy in, you should not play. If a $20 buy in lasts you 2 hours, you had PLENTY of opportunity to tip this dealer. If she was rude and whiny in the first 5 minutes, that is one thing, but after 2 hours, she had every right to be upset that you never tipped. That being said. Here is how I tip the dealers using the casinos money.
90% of the dealers I supervise would rather have a bet made for them, rather than a hand in. The other 10% want the sure thing. Most dealers are also part-full time gamblers, it%26#39;s in their blood to want to gamble.
My favorite way of betting for the dealers at 21, craps, roulette, Pai Gow Poker is putting $1, $5, $25 (now called bonus chip) on top of my bet. If I win that hand, I then place the bonus chip as a bet for the dealer and keep the original bonus chip on top of my stack. As long as I%26#39;m winning, every bet I make for the dealer comes from the profit of the original bonus chip bet I made.
After winning a few hands in a row, if I bump my bet up, I%26#39;ll bump the dealers bet too. Using the same incentive program. First bet it on top of my stack and then if I win it becomes a separate bet for the dealer.
I see lots of players who wait until they%26#39;ve won 10 hands in a row and then bet for the dealers and blame it on the dealers when they lose the 11th hand. Odds of winning 10 hands in a row is 1024:1 They%26#39;re bound to lose eventually.
For Craps players,
Hardways are nice, when they hit. If you want to be nice to The Boys (And girls) Put them on the line and give them some odds. I%26#39;ll do that for them after the shooter makes a point or two. If all the shooter is doing is shooting numbers, put the dealers on a number or two. If you say you%26#39;re controlling the bet you can press it, or let the dealers have the payoff when it hits. Otherwise they must take the bet and payoff after it hits the first time.
Next time if you want a response from those that read the Las Vegas forum, post there, please don%26#39;t whine and ask us to come look for your post.
Joe
If I had a dollar for every time I had the gall to complain about not being tipped adequately... I%26#39;d be rich. I can%26#39;t say if this woman was unprofessional or not. She works for her tips... she was disappointed. Maybe she was out of line... maybe not. Gives you something to think about as a player doesn%26#39;t it?
Dear VegasMan,
I stand corrected and enlightened by your post.
But the dealer in question needs to re-evaluate her priorities or she%26#39;s gonna starve. Five potential tippers who hear her complain about one winner may decide not to tip her at all regardless of the method they use to calculate her tip (if they decide to continue at her table).
In any case, I wish her and anyone who plays in NV good luck.
Now, if my wife doesn%26#39;t mind too much, it%26#39;s time for Texas Hold %26#39;Em online!
Lee
I just hate all this tipping - its an absolute mine field - who to tip - how much, why , where, when - ARGHHHHHHHHHHH - why dont they just pay these people the going rate and charge the customers accordingly then nobody woudl be offended and people could get on and enjoy themselves
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